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Differences between Private Investigation and CI
Now, it seems that as if all CI practitioners were the "good ones", and PI practitioners "the evil ones". Then, (if we suppose that people in general have mostly good intentions and moral) why would…
Tagged: services, detective, investigation, Private
Replied Dec. 2, 2009
Differences between Private Investigation and CI
Now, it gets interesting. :) I will try to summarize the discussion so far: basically, the difference between CI and PI is – and should be – that CI professional, unlike PIs, always follows all ethi…
Tagged: services, detective, investigation, Private
Replied Dec. 1, 2009
Differences between Private Investigation and CI
Thank you Tadeusz for your answer. I understand that there are especially ethical boundaries between these two professions. CI professionals are emphasizing to any stakeholders their strict adherence…
Tagged: services, detective, investigation, Private
Replied Nov. 26, 2009
Differences between Private Investigation and CI
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Hi, recently I was wandering where are the limits (boundaries) between Private Investigation (detective) services and CI (or BI). I am sure there is lot of overlaps between PI and CI, but could you p…
Tagged: services, detective, investigation, Private
Started this discussion. Last reply by Bryan Doran Dec. 2, 2009.
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This has been an interesting discussion. I have done some thinking about it and wonder if the differentiation between PI and CI methods is about the end result.
CI methods lead to analysis and deliverables that provide a company with actionable res…
Now, it seems that as if all CI practitioners were the "good ones", and PI practitioners "the evil ones". Then, (if we suppose that people in general have mostly good intentions and moral) why would "the World" (i.e. businesses or citizens) still us…
Yeah. We've already discussed it extensively ( http://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/forum/topics/ci-in-economy-and-politics ). Therefore, let me add only the following argument.
Dear Pavol,
Ethics is the basis of conduct, which is perceived through individual morality and society’s norm of what is "good or bad", "right or wrong". :- Stealing is immoral
A code of conduct is a statement of ethical practices or guidelines to…
Between MORALITY and GREED lies AMBITION.
In the Race for Economic Supremacy of Nations, Ethics serve Country's interests to be globally competitive.
The world is Grey and not Black or White!
Country's Moral & Ethical code and Individual Moral &…
How dare you accuse CI Professionals of practicing hypocrisy! ;-)
I would like to add specific question I think is related to Pavol's. It is related to question of misrepresentation and specifically using "mistery shopping" (whether on our own or using specialised agencies) for benchmarking competitors' offers (or…
Now, it gets interesting. :)
I will try to summarize the discussion so far: basically, the difference between CI and PI is – and should be – that CI professional, unlike PIs, always follows all ethical principles of the profession (e.g. SCIP code o…
Yes, Pavol, but I'm afraid you've asked too provocative question. Most of us share here the stand which so clearly appears, for example, in dissertation already quoted by me ( http://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/xn/detail/2036441:Comment:24363 )…
Tad Sir,
We as CI professionals are under the wrong misconception that our CLIENT ie the Global organisation / MNC is like our girlfriend ie hopelessly devoted to us.
Global organisations / MNCs have 4 types of External Advisors ie [boyfriends]:…
Another question: Do the words "pup" and "mole" ( http://fedcba.ning.com/xn/detail/2516803:Comment:7311 ) appear also in CI jargon? :-)
Competitive Intelligence cycle is used by:
1. Credit Reporting Companies
2. Private Investigators
3. Detectives
4. Market Reasearch
5. Risk Management.
If you confine CI to OSINT then the others use Semi-Active Intelligence and Active Intelligence…
Thank you Tadeusz for your answer. I understand that there are especially ethical boundaries between these two professions. CI professionals are emphasizing to any stakeholders their strict adherence to laws and CI code of ethics (esp. that of SCIP)…
Let me put a question to your question: Do CI Professionals rummage through underclothes like Detectives ( http://fedcba.ning.com/video/peril-at-end-house )? I dare suppose CI Professionals don't. ;-)
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- As a director and senior consultant of MARKETiN, I have led and conducted numerous market research, competitive intelligence and strategy consulting projects, especially for leading global companies from heavy-industry and related business-service sectors, and assisted them in entering Slovak, Czech and other CEE markets. Besides my experience as a business strategy and marketing trainer for various companies, I also acted as a marketing lecturer at the University of Economics in Bratislava. Prior to establishing MARKETiN in 2003, I worked for such companies as Euromonitor International, Bauer Consulting, Accor Services, Ability Development and Satur Travel. I have recieved a masters degree in Trade & Marketing and Ph.D. in Industrial & Cross-Sectoral Enonomics at the University of Economics in Bratislava. I am fluent in English, Slovak and Czech, and able to understand some German, Spanish and Russian.
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- I search for local CI consultants/partners based in Central and Eastern European countries for cooperation on projects in their home countries.
I also seek CI consultants/practitioners around the globe who need or might need help with projects in CEE countries.
And, finally, I want to learn more about CI, and share experience with other people involved in the global CI community.
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ICI-2 Competitive Intelligence Projects at Radisson Blu Hotel
October 13, 2010 from 9am to 6pm
For the real world application of CI fundamentals you will work on a complete CI case study
CI basics are taught in this workshop using a case study. The CI process steps are practiced and CI tools and techniques absorbed. With the training from th…
ICI-1 - Competitive Intelligence Basics Workshop at Radisson Blu Hotel, Paris Boulogne
October 11, 2010 at 9am to October 12, 2010 at 6pm
Achieving competitive advantage through systematic competitor and market analysis
In times of increasing competition and complex, fast-moving competitive environments, it is important to be one step ahead of the competition. Businesses have to anti…
- ICI-1 Competitive Intelligence Basics Workshop on June 21, 2010 at 9pm to June 22, 2010 at 6pm
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I give up. :-)
All,
Thanks for your comments. They stimulated me to think about when I respond affirmatively to implicit or explicit requests for help. Here are my "10 rules" for helping. As I wrote them, I realized that they generally apply whether the subject i…
Shiela,
I never endorsed unethical practices.
I did NOT advocate unethical practices.
What I did was defend a Nation whose comitted people in an agency, post Sept 11, go out of their way to defend Democracy.
I did NOT advocate any clandestine op…
Shiela,
I never endorsed unethical practices.
I did NOT advocate unethical practices.
What I did was defend a Nation whose comitted people in an agency, post Sept 11, go out of their way to defend Democracy.
I did NOT advocate any clandestine op…
Great idea, Andrew! What about SKYPE?
A collective of professionals and passionate amateurs around the globe who analyze a world in transition and help guide leaders in their most critical decisions.
Great Andrew - looking forward to seeing what results ;-)
There are some who can't detect my sarcasm over the Internet, which is fine. For the record, I'm not a fan of any "intelligence" programs that have a now documented, practically-official policy of war crimes. That's not intelligence. For a review of…
Fantastic - that's the point of this umbrella concept, to connect more people in more places with a variety of events in the concept of intelligence. I can't wait to see what you've come up with.
Thinking of placing the outcome from our UK panel event on 9/3 into this group and on Ning to get people to add their comments after the event and add to the anticipated rich tapestry of comment being generated given the calibre of audience, panel c…
I shall explore how others could aprticipate by bringing that age old media, namely conference call, or more one dimensional, we place the outcomes on Ning and get others to comment as they see fit with the PowerPoint used and everything? What do pe…
Vivek, I think yoou have just reinforced the point I was making and have done it much better than I. If you think that Mossad/CIA/MI6/KGB etc has any legitimate connection with CI in the commercial context of doing day to day business then I really…
A forum for those interested in issues around practicing, doing and teaching CI in this region. Get people from the region together on-line, communicate issues, promote CI in the region.
Funny enough I asked a couple of questions which I sent directly to about 25 people in CI. It was a couple of very simple questions for some research for a piece I was doing.
I got two replies
Therefore, what do you think about the following?
Competitive Intelligence Code of the U.S. Fighting Force:
6 Code of Conduct V. a. When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of b…
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